[libvoikko] HFST support to libvoikko in Debian and Ubuntu?

Sjur Moshagen sjurnm at mac.com
Mon Jan 11 11:07:40 EET 2016


Two cents frome me:

1) I think this is a very good and desirable path forward; there are also other package systems that should be considered in addition, but Debian is probably the place to start

2) We should involve the HFST team in the process. I have CC’d the team leader Krister Lindén


> 9. jan. 2016 kl. 22:42 skrev Gaup Børre <borre.gaup at uit.no>:
> On 2016-01-09 13:39, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Would there be interest in working in getting HFST enabled libvoikko
>> in Debian (and therefore also Ubuntu) within this year?
> Hi!
> I could try to give a hand with this work. I've been using Debian and 
> Kubuntu for many years. I have no experience with real packaging, but 
> have sometimes repackaged some software for my own needs when necessary.
>> I've packaged foma now and it's in Debian's NEW queue which is a slow
>> process so it might take a while. That'd enable VFST libvoikko 4.0 +
>> voikko-fi 2.0 which I've already prepared but waiting for foma.
>> I'm searching for a person who would commit to the packaging work in
>> Debian. I can help with packaging review, tips, sponsoring etc stuff
>> but I wouldn't want to expand my own existing commitments. That is,
>> the "Maintainer" field would be you or several persons.
>> The next Debian version will be frozen in Q4/2016, which in practice
>> means because of the slow processes that the package should be ready
>> for uploading this spring. The NEW queue handling is slow, the package
>> might got rejected to be reworked despite reviews, etc.
>> I'd like to also just understand what would need to be packaged for
>> this to happen? That is, all libraries and tools to both build
>> libvoikko with HFST support and building the HFST dictionaries. Is it
>> only hfstospell for libvoikko, but hfst itself too for building the
>> actual dictionaries? And then source packages for the dictionaries
>> like hfst-northernsami.
> When building libvoikko, only hfstospell is needed.
> For the dictionaries, hfst is needed.
>> Harri has an existing packaging for hfstospell which can be used as a
>> baseline: https://github.com/voikko/debian-packages/tree/master/ <https://github.com/voikko/debian-packages/tree/master/>.
> hfst has been packaged by apertium. Those packages might be used as 
> baseline for hfst?
>> Modern Debian packaging is not complex on the one hand (debian/rules
>> is the main "build intelligence" in the packaging, and it's two lines
>> in eg that hfstospell), but on the other hand getting all the other
>> data 100% correct and according to policies
>> (https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/) does require significant
>> effort. I estimate 8h as minimum of strictly packaging work for the
>> HFST dependencies, and months for the overall process. But as
>> mentioned, I'm willing to instruct via e-mail as long as someone has
>> the resource of time and willingness to learn.
>> I will continue to maintain libvoikko, voikko-fi, libreoffice-voikko
>> and now foma. My hope would be to get the new libvoikko 4.0 with VFST
>> to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
>> -Timo
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